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Jiddu Krishnamurti on Transformation
Question: What do you mean by transformation?
So there must be a revolution - but not a revolution based on an idea. Such a revolution is merely the continuation of the idea, not a radical transformation. A revolution based on an idea brings bloodshed, disruption, chaos. Out of chaos you cannot create order; you cannot deliberately bring about chaos and hope to create order out of that chaos.
You are not the God-chosen who are to create order out of confusion That is such a false way of thinking on the part of those people who wish to create more and more confusion in order to bring about order. Because for the moment they have power, they assume they know all the ways of producing order.
Seeing the whole of this catastrophe - the constant repetition of wars, the ceaseless conflict between classes, between peoples, the awful economic and social inequality, the inequality of capacity and gifts, the gulf between those who are extraordinarily happy, unruffled, and those who are caught in hate, conflict, and misery - seeing all this, there must be a revolution, there must be complete transformation, must there not?
Is this transformation, is this radical revolution, an
ultimate thing or is it from moment to moment? I know we should like it
to be the ultimate thing, because it is so much easier to think in terms
of far away. Ultimately we shall be transformed, ultimately we shall be
happy, ultimately we shall find truth; in the meantime, let us carry on.
Surely such a mind, thinking in terms of the future, is incapable of
acting in the present; therefore such a mind is not seeking
transformation, it is merely avoiding transformation. What do we mean by
When you see that something is false, that false thing drops away. When you see that ceremonies are mere vain repetitions, when you see the truth of it and do not justify it, there is transformation, is there not?, because another bondage is gone. When you see that class distinction is false, that it creates conflict, creates misery, division between people - when you see the truth of it, that very truth liberates. The very perception of that truth is transformation, is it not? As we are surrounded by so much that is false, perceiving the falseness from moment to moment is transformation.
Truth is not cumulative. It is from moment to moment.
That which is cumulative, accumulated, is memory, and through memory you
can never find truth, for memory is of time - time being the past, the
present and the future. Time, which is continuity, can never find that
which is eternal; eternity is not continuity. That which endures is not
eternal. Eternity is in the moment. Eternity is in the now. The now is
not the reflection of the past nor the continuance of the past through
the present to the future.
To discover the new, the eternal, in the present, from
moment to moment, one needs an extraordinarily alert mind, a mind that
is not seeking a result, a mind that is not becoming. A mind that is
becoming can never know the full bliss of contentment; not the
contentment of smug satisfaction; not the contentment of an achieved
result, but the contentment that comes when the mind sees the truth in
what is and the false in what is. The perception of that truth is from
moment to moment; and that perception is delayed through verbalization
of the moment.
That timeless state can come only when there is a
tremendous discontent - not the discontent that has found a channel
through which it escapes but the discontent that has no outlet, that has
no escape, that is no longer seeking fulfilment. Only then, in that
state of supreme discontent, can reality come into being. That reality
is not to be bought, to be sold, to be repeated; it cannot be caught in
books. It has to be found from moment to moment, in the smile, in the
tear, under the dead leaf, in the vagrant thoughts, in the fullness of
Source: from Jiddu Krishnamurti Book "The First and last Freedom"