Unconditioning the Mind
Question: Is there any
state of mind which has never been programmed at all
Are there any techniques to de-condition our brain?
There has never
been any consciousness which has not been programmed. In the very upbringing
comes the programming. Even if the child is brought up not by you but by
wolves in the wild, the wolves will program the child.
There have been cases... Just a few years ago a child twelve years old was
found who had been brought up by the wolves in the forest in north India. He
could not stand even on his two feet. He ran like a wolf; even the best
runner could not manage to keep pace with him. He had been programmed by the
problem is, you have to bring the child up, and somebody has to take care,
and whoever is going to take care is going to, knowingly or unknowingly,
condition the mind of the child. It is not a question that you have to
program consciously. But how the child will learn the language... it is a
program. That’s why every language is called the mother tongue, because the
child never finds the father speaking in the presence of the mother.
Naturally he is conditioned by the mother.
There is no possibility of anybody being brought up unprogrammed. And you
are asking, ”Are there any techniques to de-condition our brain?” There are
techniques to de-condition, but that is re-programming. You can call it
de-conditioning, but in fact, what are you doing? You are putting B in place
of A. The only possibility is meditation; that’s why meditation should not
be called a technique. It is simply relaxing into your own inner world,
alone – without a guide, without scriptures – and becoming so silent that
not a single ripple of thought remains. That’s the only way of canceling all
the only way – not the technique – in which you can find your self-nature,
your Buddhanature in its purity, in its virginity, untouched by anybody. But
there are people who are trying to de-program; in fact they are simply
There have been cases, strange cases, where young people have been abducted
by their parents and taken to psychiatrists where they de-program them,
because they have gone out of the Christian fold, or the Jewish fold. They
have gone outside the society that has brought them up.
The society cannot
tolerate this revolt. Parents abducting their own children and paying for
their deprogramming... But it is not de-programming, it is again
re-programming, making the Catholic again Catholic. But the Catholicism
itself was a program.
Except meditation, either you will be a Hindu or a Mohammedan or a Christian
or a Jew – some kind of program will be there. Only the meditator rises
above all programs, becomes a simple, innocent consciousness, on which
nothing is written. But this gives such clarity of vision, such intensity of
perception, such great joy of being that one becomes for the first time part
of the eternal dance of existence.
Those who are programmed by anybody...
Christian or Communist, Mohammedan or Hindu, it does not matter who programs
you; he destroys your purity.
Now, what are you doing in the Krishnamurti Foundation? You will teach
people a certain program. Of course you will think you are de-programming
people – you are programming them according to J. Krishnamurti. Even
de-programming can be a part of a certain programming. Things are very
have been meeting with many people who have listened to Krishnamurti for
fifty years, forty years, and still they say, ”We are Krishnamurti-ites.”
For thirty years that poor man was continuously trying to de-program you,
but he has really programmed you again.
Now you are a Krishnamurti-ite.
First you used to be a Hindu or a Christian or a Mohammedan. Any
doctrine, any effort of teaching about things which are not your experience
is going to spoil your purity. For ten thousand years there has been only
one way: its name is meditation. What Basho says:
and the grass grows by itself.
Source: Hari Om Tat Sat -
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