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Group
work:
The whole order of Sannyas was created
as group work (Osho)
Man is hypnotized to believe that he is awake (Gurdjieff)
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The
whole
order
of Sannyas
was
created
as
group
work
Osho -
Awakening
is
possible
even
in
a
single
moment.
In
that
single
moment,
one
can
explode
into
the
divine.
That
is
possible,
but
generally
it
never
happens.
One
has
to
struggle
for
continuous
lives,
because
the
task
is
arduous
and
one
cannot
awaken
himself.
It
is
very
much
like
this:
if
one
is
asleep
in
the
morning,
there
is
every
possibility
that
one
can
dream
he
is
awake,
though
he
will
not
be
awake.
A
group
of
persons
decide
collectively
to
make
some
effort.
Then
it
is
more
possible
that
sleep
can
be
broken.
So
awakening
is
really
a
group
work.
It
can
happen
individually,
and
each
individual
is
capable
of
doing
it
alone,
but
it
never
happens
so.
The
actual
working
is
different,
because
we
never
work
to
our
utmost
capacity.
We
never
work
beyond
a
ten
percent
part
of
the
mind.
Ninety
percent
remains
just
potential;
it
is
never
used.
There
is
no
difference
in
your
dreaming
whether
you
are
asleep
or
awake,
dreaming
goes
on
inside.
This
awakening,
this
awareness
which
we
all
have,
is
only
superficial.
Deep
inside
there
is
a
dream,
and
that
continues.
So
one
can
have
two
things:
either
individual
work
is
possible
or
group
work
is
needed.
The
whole
order
of
sannyas
was
created
as
group
work.
Awakening
becomes
more
possible
if
there
are
ten
thousand
people
working
in
a
group,
so
even
if
one
is
awakened,
he
can
create
a
chain
of
awakenings.
Buddha
created
a
group
order, Mahavira
created
a
group
order.
Their
orders
were
really
an
outward
phenomenon;
they
were sannyasins,
an
order
of
sannyasins.
Inwardly
they
were
doing
a
group
work,
and
that
group
work
continues
for
lives.
For
example,
there
are
still
persons
alive
of
the
Buddhist
group
of
sannyasins.
And
they
have
an
inner
understanding
and
an
inner
oath a
promise
to
the
group
that
whenever
someone
is
awakened,
he
will
do
his
utmost
to
awaken
the
others,
particularly
those
belonging
to
the
group.
Why
those
belonging
to
the
group?
Because
every
school
has
a
particular
technique.
If
you
have
worked
with
a
particular
technique
in
your
previous
lives,
you
can
work
easily
in
this
life.
So,
there
are
many
persons
who
belong
to
me
since
their
other
births,
their
other
lives.
And
that
group
of
persons
is
more
capable
in
many
ways.
It
has
worked
something,
it
has
done
something,
up
to
a
point;
it
is
not
just
a
beginning
for
them.
Otherwise,
with
every
new
person,
you
have
to
do
more
unnecessary
and
unessential
work.
For
example,
intellectual
work
is
needed
for
beginners.
Those
who
have
worked
in
their
past
lives
with
a
particular
technique,
they
will
not
need
any
intellectual
work
now.
You
tell
them
the
technique,
and
they
will
begin
to
do
it.
There
will
be
no
intellectual
work,
they
will
not
ask
superficial
questions.
That
curiosity
will
not
be
there,
and
that
curiosity
takes
much
time
and
much
energy.
So
one
can
work
with
beginners
if
one
has
so
many
lives
ahead.
But
if
one
has
no
life
ahead,
he
cannot
work
on
beginners.
He
has
to
confine
his
work
to
the
old
ones
who
are
somehow
on
the
bank.
They
do
not
need
any
intellectual
philosophy;
they
have
no
superficial
inquiries.
They
will
just
go
deep,
directly.
The
old
requirement,
the
requirement
that
one
should
have
faith,
is
really
a
trick.
It
is
just
to
distinguish
between
the
old
ones
and
the
new
ones.
With
the
new
ones,
faith
is
impossible;
only
doubt
is
possible.
Only
with
the
old
ones
is
faith
possible,
and
doubt
is
impossible.
So
faith
is
just
a
technique,
a
trick,
to
choose
between
them
and
to
know
on
whom
more
work
can
be
done
in
less
time.
It
is
not
that
those
who
can
have
faith
are
in
any
way
different
than
those
who
have
doubts.
It
is
only
that
those
who
have
faith
have
worked
somewhere,
so
intellectual
curiosity
is
not
there;
it
has
been
fulfilled.
They
have
passed;
they
are
not
just
entering
the
school,
they
have
passed
the
entrance.
So
to
ask
for
faith
is
to
ask,
"Have
you
worked
in
your
past
lives?"
If
you
have
worked,
only
then
can
you
have
faith;
otherwise
you
cannot.
And
in
today's
world
doubt
seems
much
more
prominent,
easier.
Faith
is
very
difficult.
The
reason
is
not
that
the
human
mind
has
been
changed,
the
reason
is
only
this:
that
the
old
traditions
are
running
narrow.
Really,
since
Nanak
there
have
been
no
new
traditions.
Now
all
the
religions
are
old.
They
have
been
going
on,
the
river
is
narrowing
every
day.
With
every
new
day,
the
tradition
has
fewer
persons
with
it.
Since
Buddha
there
are
now
twentyfive
centuries
the
tradition
is
so
old
that
almost
all
who
were
connected
with
the
living
master
are
liberated!
And
all
those
persons
who
have
remained
are
really
very
third
rate.
They
have
had
twentyfive
centuries
of
continuous
work. All
the
traditions
and
their
continuity
are,
in
a
way,
so
old
now.
That
is
why
faith
is
less.
There
were
so
many
living
traditions
and
so
many
persons
who
have
worked
in
their
past
lives.
Faith
was
the
root
for
each
one,
doubt
was
very
difficult. If
you
ask
me,
I
am
doing
many
things.
One
is
working
for
those
who
have
been
in
any
way
connected
with
me
and
there
are
many.
Another
is
to
create
a
new
continuity
which
we
will
be
living
in
the
coming
days,
because
no
old
thinking
is
of
use
now. And
I
would
not
like
to
change
someone
from
his
own
continuity,
because
if
we
cannot
liberate
a
man
in
a
long
tradition
of
twentyfive
centuries,
it
is
useless
to
change
him
now.
It
is
better
to
let
him
go
deep
in
his
own
tradition.
It
is
better
not
to
change
him,
but
make
his
own
tradition
a
living
one.
He
can
go
deep
in
it.
He
will
be
another
continuity
with
the
old. But
previously,
I
was
working
for
the
new
ones,
so
my
emphasis
was
on
doubt.
I
will
always
be
concerned
with
doubt,
because
only
through
doubt
can
you
attract
the
new
one,
never
through
faith.
Faith
attracts
the
old
one.
He
has
been
doing
something
in
his
past
lives.
My
emphasis
has
been
on
doubt
only
because
I
should
work
for
a
new
tradition
which
will
be
living.
Now
my
emphasis
will
be
on
faith,
and
there
is
no
contradiction.
This
is
only
changing
the
entrance
and
nothing
else.
When
I
was
emphasizing
doubt,
no
one
came.
Now
I
will
emphasize
faith.
So
I
will
work
for
those
with
whom
I
was
connected
in
past
lives. So
there
will
be
no
difficulty,
because
we
never
go
deep
in
anything.
We
cannot
go
deep.
There
are
levels.
When
I
say
doubt,
when
I
say
faith,
this
is
inconsistent.
Only
the
labeling
may
be
different,
only
different
words
will
come
now.
Whatsoever
I
was
doing
will
continue.
Now
my
emphasis
will
be
for
those
who
have
worked
for
something.
That
is
why
this
order
of
sannyas
because
with
doubt
it
cannot
be
created.
Whenever
there
is
doubt,
one
can
be
alone
and
can
never
work
in
a
group.
With
a
technique
of
doubt
you
can
never
work
in
a
group,
never.
Doubts
make
you
an
island.
But
when
you
become
a
continent,
then
you
are
joined
with
others.
Then
there
is
no
separation,
and
you
can
work
in
the
group. As
far as man is concerned he is so weak that we cannot
rely upon him individually.
He
cannot
do
anything,
he
can
only
deceive
himself.
So,
if
we
are
going
to
work
on
individuals
we
have
to
create
mechanical
helps.
For
example,
you
are
asleep,
and
no
one
is
there
to
awaken
you.
You
will
have
to
use
an
alarm
clock,
that
is
the
mechanical
device
to
help
you.
But
no
mechanical
device
will
be
very
helpful
for
long
because
you
will
become
used
to
it,
and
soon
you
will
not
be
disturbed
in
your
sleep
by
your
alarm
clock.
Rather,
sleep
can
be
even
more
sound
and
the
working
of
the
mind
is
such
that
you
will
change
the
alarm
into
a
symbol
in
a
dream,
and
it
will
be
interpreted
in
a
different
way.
Then
it
will
not
become
a
discontinuity
in
sleep.
You
will
create
a
dream
in
such
a
way
that
the
alarm
becomes
just
a
part
of
it,
so
that
it
is
not
against
your
sleep
but
a
part
of
your
dream. I
have
tried
with
many
persons
individually.
I
have
given
mechanical
devices
also,
but
they
have
become
accustomed
to
them
and
then
a
new
fallacy
arises.
That
is
the
greatest
fallacy
in
spirituality:
one
can
dream
he
is
awake.
That
is
the
most
fatal
disease,
the
most
dangerous:
we
can
continue
our
sleep
and
we
can
dream
we
are
awake.
Then
there
is
no
need
for
devices,
and
you
are
in
your
dreams
alone. So
my
emphasis
from
now
on
will
be
on
group
work.
So
even
if
one
is
awakened
just
for
a
single
moment,
he
can
create
shocks
for
others.
He
can
shake
you.
And
this
order
of
sannyas
will
be
just
a
group
with
inner
faith. When
you
feel,
even
for
a
single
second,
awareness
coming
to
you,
help
others.
And
they
will
help
you
when
the
need
is
there.
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Man
is
hypnotized
to
believe
that
he
is
awake(Gurdjieff)
Gurdjieff
had
paid
lot
of
importance
on
group
work.
Gurdjieff
had
created
a
group
of
seekers
to
work
together
and
to
impart
the
teachings
to
them.
P.
D.
Ouspensky
have
introduced
the
teaching
of
his
Master
Gurdjieff
in
his
remarkable
Book
"In
search
of
Miraculous". Ouspensky
talks
about
the
importance
which
Gurdjieff
had
put
on
Group
work
in
the
book.
Essence
of
what
Ouspensky
says
about
group
work
is
in
front
of
you.
Man
is
hypnotized
to
believe
that
he
is
awake
but
in
reality
man
is
sleeping
even
in
the
waking
moments.
As
during
the
waking
hours
also
man
is
dreaming
about
past
or
future. There
are
two
types
of
sleeps.
First
type
of
sleep
is
during
the
night
and
second
type
of
sleep
is
our
dream
state
in
the
waking
hours
when
we
continuously
drift
to
past
and
future
yet
doing
our
day
to
day
activity
mechanically.
To
fully
awake
means
living
in
present
moment
all
the
time.
One
needs
to
be
aware
or
present
in
all
the
action
one
does.
Practically
man
is
sleeping
all
the
time.
Man
needs
a
good
shock
to
awake
from
this
dream
like
state.
But
man
is
so
fast
asleep
that
one
shock
is
not
enough.
Man
needs
to
be
shocked
continuously
then
only
he
can
be
awake.
But
who
will
provide
this
shock
to
man.
As
man
is
asleep
he
needs
help
from
someone
else
to
wake
him.
But
at
the
same
time
another
sleeping
person
also
needs
help
for
himself.
So
one
sleeping
man
can
not
provide
shock
to
another
sleeping
man.
Man
needs
the
help
of
some
one
who
is
awake
and
is
ready
to
help
sleeping
people
in
their
awakening.
But
the
man
who
is
awake
may
not
like
to
spend
his
time
in
waking
up
sleeping
people
as
he
may
have
much
more
important
work
to
do.
More
over
those
who
can
help,
they
wont
prefer
to
spent
energy
on
one
single
person
as
one
who
can
help
put
a
great
value
on
their
time
and
they
would
prefer
to
help
when
there
are
groups
of
people
lets
say
twenty,
or
thirty
people. So
one
who
is
interested
in
awakening
should
look
for
other
people
who
also
want
to
awake
and
work
together
with
them
in
an
organized
way.
It
may
happen
that
one
of
them
gets
awake
and
then
that
person
can
help
in
awakening
others.
This
whole
group
work
should
be
organized
and
it
can
be
only
done
by
one
who
knows
the
problems,
aims
of
such
a
group
and
he
himself
has
passed
through
the
group
work.
Every
member
of
Group
is
chosen
by
the
teacher
with
some
specific
aim
and
group
should
work
according
to
the
aim
of
the
group
as
specified
by
the
teacher.
No
group
is
possible
with
out
a
teacher.
Source: "The whole order of Sannyas was created
as group work
(Osho)" from Osho book "I Am The Gate"
""Man
is
hypnotized
to
believe
that
he
is
awake"
from
"In search of
Miraculous" by Ouspensky (translated by us)
Related Article -
"Gurdjieff Life and Teachings"
"Blessed few, chosen few become acquainted with the wisdom of a Buddha"
"Jiddu
krishnamurti on Need of Guru"
"Presence of a
Living Master is Essential for your growth"
"Sri Ramakrishna
Paramhansa on Need of Guru and Faith in
Guru"
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