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Question: Beloved Osho, You have said that
Krishnamurti can get angry. How is that possible, as in enlightenment there
is no one there to be angry?
Osho: Henk Faassen, in enlightenment there is
nobody there to get angry, and there is nobody there not to get angry
either. So whatsoever happens, happens. Krishnamurti does not get angry the
way you get angry. Everything with an enlightened person happens on a
totally different plane. His anger comes out of his
compassion. Your anger comes out of hate, aggression, cruelty. He
becomes angry -- sometimes he starts pulling his hair out, he hits his own
forehead -- but out of compassion.
Just think, for fifty years or more he has been teaching a certain kind of
truth to the world, and nobody understands him. The same people gather each
year to listen to him -- the same people. Once he was talking in Bombay...
somebody reported this to me, and the person who reported it to me is an old
lady, older than Krishnamurti. She saw Krishnamurti when he was a child, she
has seen him and listened to him for fifty years. And because she is a
little deaf, very old, she sits in the front on a chair.
And for fifty years Krishnamurti has been saying that there are no methods
for meditation, that meditation is not needed at all. Just be in the present
and live your life, that's enough meditation, no other technique is
needed....
For one and a half hours he poured his heart out, and at the end the lady
stood up and asked, "How to meditate?" Now, what do you suppose he should
do? He hit his head. This is not your anger. This is so unbelievable! He is
tired of this lady, but this lady is not tired of him.
She comes to every talk to listen to him, and asks the same stupid
questions. When I say Krishnamurti can get angry, I don't mean, Henk, that
he can get angry like you get angry. His anger is out of compassion. This
situation is unbelievable! He wants to help this lady and he feels so
helpless. He tries this way and that. His message is very simple, singular,
one-dimensional. For fifty years he has been saying only a single word. In
essence his whole teaching can be printed on one side of a postcard.
He has been saying it in as many possible ways as one can invent, but it is
the same citadel that he attacks from the north, from the south, from the
west, from the east. And still people go on listening to him and go on
asking the same old foolish questions. He certainly gets angry. And when a
man like Krishnamurti gets angry, he is pure anger. Many in India have felt
very disappointed with Krishnamurti because he gets angry. They have a
certain concept that a buddha should not get angry. They go with a
prejudice.
And when they see that Krishnamurti can get angry, they are disillusioned,
"So this man is not a buddha, he has not become enlightened yet." I say to
you that he is one of the most enlightened persons who has ever walked on
this earth. Still he can get angry, but his anger comes out of compassion;
it is condensed compassion. He cares about you, so much so that he becomes
angry. This is a totally different quality of anger.
And when he becomes angry he is real anger. Your anger is partial, lukewarm.
Your anger is like a dog who is not certain how to behave with a stranger.
He may be a friend of the master, so he wags his tail; he may be an enemy,
so he barks. He does both together. On one hand he goes on barking, on the
other hand he goes on wagging his tail. He is playing the diplomat, so
whatsoever the case turns out to be, he can always feel right. If the master
comes and he sees that the master is friendly, the barking will stop and his
whole energy will go into the tail.
If the master is angry with the intruder, then the tail will stop
completely, and his whole energy will go into barking. Your anger is also
like that. You are weighing up how far to go, how much will pay; don't go
beyond the limit, don't provoke the other person too much. But when a man
like Krishnamurti becomes angry he is pure anger. And pure anger has a
beauty because it has totality. He is just anger. He is like a small child,
redfaced, just anger all over, ready to destroy the whole world. That's what
happened to Jesus.
When he went into the great temple and saw the moneychangers and their
tables inside the temple, he was in a rage. He became angry -- the same
anger that comes out of compassion and love. Singlehanded, he drove all the
moneychangers out of the temple and overturned their boards. He must have
been really very angry, because driving all the moneychangers out of the
temple singlehanded is not an easy thing. And reports say -- I don't know
how far they are right, but reports say that he was not a very strong man.
Reports say that he was not even a very tall man; you will be surprised, he
was only four feet six inches. And not only that -- on top of it he was a
hunchback. I don't know how far those reports are true, because I don't want
to go to court! But it is there in the books, ancient books, very ancient
books. So how did this hunchback, four feet six inches high, drive out all
the moneychangers singlehanded? He must have been pure rage! Indians are
angry about that. They cannot trust that Jesus is enlightened -- just
because of this incident.
People have their prejudices, their ideas. Rather than seeing into reality,
rather than looking into an enlightened man, they come ready with so many
concepts, and unless he fits them he is not enlightened. And let me tell
you, no enlightened person is going to fit with your unenlightened
prejudices; it is impossible. It happened, a lady came to me. She had been a
follower of Krishnamurti for many years, then a small thing disturbed the
whole thing and the whole applecart was upturned. The thing was so small
that I was surprised.
There was a camp in Holland where Krishnamurti holds a camp every year, and
the woman had gone there from India. Nearabout two thousand people had
gathered from all over the world to listen to him. The next morning the
lectures were going to start, and the woman had gone shopping. And she was
surprised, Krishnamurti was also shopping. An enlightened person shopping?
Can you believe it? Buddha in a supermarket? And not only that -- he was
purchasing a necktie.
Enlightened people need neckties? And not only that -- the whole counter was
full of neckties and he was throwing them this way and that, and he was not
satisfied with any. The woman watched, looked at the whole scene, and fell
from the sky. She thought, "I have come from India for this ordinary man who
is purchasing neckties. And even then, of thousands of neckties of all
colors and all kinds of material, nothing is satisfying to him. Is this
detachment? Is this awareness?"
She turned away. She didn't attend the camp, she came back immediately. And
the first thing she did was to come running to me, and she said, "You are
right."
I said, "What do you mean?"
She said, "You are right that it was useless wasting my time with
Krishnamurti. Now I want to become a sannyasin of yours."
I said, "Please excuse me, I cannot accept you. If you cannot accept
Krishnamurti, how can I accept you? Get lost! ... Because here you will see
far more disappointing things. What are you going to do with my Mercedes
Benz? So before it happens, why bother? What are you going to do with my
air-conditioned room? Before it happens, it is better that you go and find
some Muktananda, etcetera. You have not been able to understand Krishnamurti,
you will not be able to understand me."
People like Krishnamurti live on a totally different plane. Their anger is
not your anger. And who knows that he was not just playing with those ties
for this stupid old woman? Masters are known to devise things like that. He
got rid of this stupid old woman very easily.
Source: from book "The book of wisdom" by Osho
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